Wednesday, February 16, 2011

TBC data compilation - the Building of Society

 TBC Association of the Building of data compilation mm
by Edwin
Association, which today is provide some information on the management for reference, because TBC raid the tremendous changes in all aspects of the Association had a corresponding impact, how to profit and avoid loss the healthy development of the Association to continue to believe it is each player's sincere hope that love PVE.
this article will be divided into four parts:
1.TBC experience
2.TBC late early example of the Association
3.Elitist Jerks recruitment revelation
4. on the Association's proposed national dress
Association of the early experience of a TBC
we first reproduced the original thieves guild leader Bsaslan (Aslan why he should be despised I do not know, jealous person Parents have handsome? or look down on Sanxing slaves?) services in Europe and summary of experiences in early TBC, due to the situation and the current national service would be quite close to the reference value. Figures in brackets are my comments.
of: miss54 ( If I am not mistaken, then is our Society Bsaslan)
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TBC arrival, copy of the changes are still very large. The most significant problem is actually two:
1.raid Group limit 25 people 2.pvp becomes filled with the separation of pve (corresponding to the growing gaming arena and the progressive layers of high-end raid)
Looking back now, as the TBC, trade unions, The most important work has two: one is to do triage personnel work, staff are divided into about 3: PVP Arena, RAID main, edge RAID groups. the so-called edge of the raid, put it bluntly, is not very enthusiastic on the raid or no way to often the presence of people (like me, because learning has been off work to visit relatives raid, which is a common problem almost all the international students association), formerly referred to hand a lot of dkp, but often afk, that is such a people. 2 is a re-orientation of trade unions or amend their goal orientation, scale, formed.
reasonable distinction between groups, positioned to better management, placement, details I mentioned in the following paragraphs.
from the earliest upgrade began, JY 5 copies of the decision task and a private relationship more closely the emergence of a small group (the arena and opening up, this small group is more obvious, raid in how to handle the corresponding relationships is leader we need to consider very , and with comrades and bloody battle in the arena of time to raid the other guild members on the line, during which almost no comparable degree of intimacy). During this time, the union is doing nothing of the rule base.
then after 70 Karazhan, the number rose to 10 people, 5 copies of the team began to change, consolidation is inevitable, and because the pioneers of professional configuration, personnel will be integrated, can not simply two groups get together 5. Second, have begun to divert some of the beginning of specialization pvp arena and battle (there is a substantial part of our association members eager PVP while the raid is not much enthusiasm for that matter, Blizzard's very successful dual system TBC). < br> During this time, the unions decided to completely voluntary groups to form and join Karazhan, but in fact the initiator of each Karazhan groups are trade unions and managers in the mt, ot, officials, cl, ==. union seemed to have no management, but in fact equivalent to grass-roots-_-led delegation. pvp people are beginning to specialize in playing the field frequently, but basically this stage in Karazhan is not obvious, because the card Razan get some weapons and the like can save their arena points. this time the main problem is how to organize people who want to participate in raid to raid. when we recruit a number of new unions, there are a lot of new people come here especially for a Time is a lively trade unions, but the new placement, there is great problem, at that time not a lot of new people to 70, the problem is not obvious. here would like to talk, TBC's open, the influx of newcomers on the one hand, managers are more should be noted that the elderly back to life. old people better than new, involve a lot of personal feelings, ==, be cautious when dealing with A (the case of mishandling occurred several times in my guild, the more serious two back, one person will pull back take a lot of friends withdraw, and the other a direct separation of a small association, of course, in my opinion is very regrettable, after all, is not easy outside the Chinese can get together and play more of a fate, but the young energetic often really quite difficult, difficult managers, others hard to understand, so the CL or the president of such a difficult job I have always shunned).
generally when close to farm Karazhan stage wasteland 25 raid began, this is the greatest change in the test and place, 25 people, how to configure? the configuration of the reasons people will have to be brushed, how to appease the deployment? fact probably not at the beginning of a raid group number to meet demand, while two groups do not allow configuration. This is likely to result in a Karazhan group with a teammate in no way due to configuration problems appear in the 25 team.
so the kind of argument is no trade union use of, or the trade unions have no longer necessary. said here, this is impossible, wild Karazhan group play, because they were nerf's terrible, and if you think 25 is a copy of the case, then you are wrong (After the nerf today after a few months can be changed here, the Gelug and wild horse fat are now serving the United States Mission of the hh is new equipment direct plug pulled and then the storm hitting the snake temple).
at this stage , beginning 25 to some extent due to land clearing Karazhan group build too relaxed and the difficulties encountered, there were only three Karazhan farm groups, one group remained in the wasteland, resulting in groups of 25 people staffing shortage A very easy, the absence of some necessary occupation, the day of the raid canceled. At the same time as the equipment easy to use and good arena to get (when 25 storms, snakes and Karazhan drop copy has not been strengthened, the hero copy and pvp in terms of equipment from the much higher cost), many people tend to pvp, even to the extent of land reclamation. The whole mentality of the team have an impact. 25raid the 麦科瑟里登, land reclamation when the treatment is almost to be 9 + 5 warlocks, all of a sudden you come up with five equipment to operate qualified ss, indeed a bit difficult, not to say that Warlock less, but through a Karazhan warlock too little, to 5, one less will not work (of course, now horse fat is that this moment was then a, nerf into the slag.) later adopted a series of measures, including:
1, to encourage the creation of the new Karazhan groups to support their land reclamation, the mobilization of experienced personnel to assist them . Karazhan farm groups also have plans to absorb part of the new people, give them the opportunity to raid. Karazhan raid time is no longer given a fixed time, the group decide on rest days or after 25 raid (Karazhan Team cohesion is a very good running copy of the equipment in the fall after the buff has been 2 very high price).
2, divided into pvp and pve the rank, once the application for pvp, can not get into the copy of the equipment (25 , for example, three weapons and materials, this can encourage more players pvp more is involved in the Association of pve, because in fact, to the late TBC pve> pvp thing is obvious: you can pvp raid one week and then spend some time with both hands hands are hard, but not on the line every day, all day a few months pvp, now we have a few pvp Association team is the strongest main raid, the choice of equipment has a certain advantage to the surface, casting equipment and the acceleration of the late high-grade stones is pve to start), pve rank pvp human activities must give way to a 25 raid, including talent, time. here to say the determination of the next pvp rank, it is premature, the arena is new to everyone there is a curious process, no one wanted to play, and for some time, his intention in the light of the human mind naturally, but people who really want to achieve ongoing training will begin, with those better than pioneers spent less time copies (very easy to say that PVP is a lie, to maintain a high rating is by no means a simple matter, only to have considerable pre-investment). over a period of time for members to choose and then rank the the right to make it clear they want to say.
3, also modified the union rank, team up to rank as the standard, each professional team into the CL unconditional, each occupation elite rank 1 to 3 places, as they enjoy the priority team, generally more than the elite places + CL will not raid the required number of ordinary members of the elite in the free volume or absence of fill, if the people you roll, roll the roll to win in the next event automatically disqualify time (here is where I am quite a headache, because the location TBC mage raid less, if I participate in new raid takes place, it is difficult if not attended to observe the operation of response and enthusiasm raid, but fortunately with WWS, the whole of the record can I even do not participate in the new raid also well aware of the performance). elite rank itself is constantly changing, the absence of the copy of the show will change your rank.
these measures, and there is nothing new, after all, is not suitable for this stage of labor unions medicine too suddenly, but effective or good. the officials to determine all the matters, raid groups off a lot of staffing, we also correct the attitude, and the group continues to dig out a lot of flutter in the active, strength of the new members, promoted a rank.
, looking back, a copy of this 2 times the size of the expansion is due to emergence of a number of idle workers union, how they do not feel neglected by trade unions? in the raid in prime time may be idlers will appear bored. This objective has also led to difficult to integrate into a large new team, after all, the best way into the raid, wrong, off h Blessings group encountered problems now is that many trade unions to the new but not well integrated into trade unions, like karaoke night, or 25 copies with them no chance.
fact, this point has been to find a way to make new and better integration into the union, after all, new people can understand the situation in a strange environment. Fortunately, the heroic piece of information and a copy of the damn door high-end raid task helped. heroics, between the raid and between normal copy can be said that the role of a connecting link. the one hand, we can not force the old and new members to a copy of Under The exchange of people, after all, there is no need ~ how about power, on the other hand new copy in the 5 to a better understanding of friends, and old members to exchange: raid when the farm's no problem, how pioneers might have time to communicate your feelings, not to mention a lot of farm boss, or even very seriously, but also enhance the new equipment can be very good. further the annoyance, people crazy in the quest chain will open virtually more people to complete. So unions are often encouraged to open a copy of all the hero group, the effect is good.
infrastructure determines the superstructure, as amended, before the foundation of all good, the recent progress of the union triumph, 1 week 2boss, 2 星期 3boss, is now pioneering a new copy. Meanwhile, the raid officers to the growing demand, which reached a crossroads, open a new group, or not open? or rather, is to continue to expand the scale, or to maintain the existing the size of the 200 + members? does not include small, historical figures, ==
at this point, officials agreed to discuss the results surprising, maintaining the scale and maintain independence groups. Based on this, we recognize the elite group of independent Medium union position (to date Black Temple Society of advance, this approach is still not much change, of course, is closely related to the characteristics and student associations).
TBC did some time after, small development of trade unions is very good After all, flexible and easy to turn around.
but with the progress of the RAID-depth, small unions is not enough depth on our bench is more serious, FARM better said, a lot of time for the boss staffing wasteland, with very strict, such as a boss needs to banish mobs 5 ss, ss 5 where you go? (Blizzard nerf constantly busy to help a small Association) for a small union, the more difficult, let alone have a copy after the more senior the tedious task of opening the door (the serpent and the storm door also abolished the task), the number of previous Zhuazhuang Ding charge even more difficult to. not to mention there is no guarantee he has been able to participate in raid, most likely something just because a few people, travel, day have to cancel the raid.
25 people raid, along with all kinds of syrup nerf, and equipment is the last word, no karaoke equipment, temporary graduate level, at worst point is making too much (I once was, boe's 67 blue clothes by 2 months, although the clothes will hit so high a). In other words, 25 people raid the reserve talents are temporarily out of the karaoke group, then the number of temporary groups that can feed a karaoke 25 raid? from now, four groups, that is 40 people, about 25 people to meet the raid in the occupational mix, as well as the need for replacement.
general there will be a karaoke temporary group 11 to 15 people (however, Now the trend is large with a small brush to the karaoke equipment, and general points of the old long-time players will have several numbers, what kind of job on missing anything, so a group of people for almost 10-13), then that is said that the configuration can guarantee 50 people 25 people raid the land reclamation.
so doing, is really a lean, mean, unions configuration, but taking into account the coming and going, I believe only 50 people online at the same time raid , the real in the size of about 100 floating.
so my view is that a single group, but reserves of 100 people formed, can be better qualified than
TBC the RAID process is my mission medium alone definition and analysis of trade unions, after the syrup was a nerf, wash down medicine is still inevitable, but the increase is limited, from the management is good, there are challenges: cost, members can pay off their total. Each raid member must be equipped perfect, in fact, this also indirectly proved that the members took part in the raid a good process, and open the task together, a good limit the raid marginalized groups (three months later, it seems, this sum has a strong predictability).
As to why people do not support expansion of trade unions for many groups:
If you want your union, the progress of the team go faster, some contradictions and problems can be less, then the independent group, or the elite regiment union is a better choice
course, may occur in the more active union members, resulting in 25 people applied to each of 30 ~ 40, but not a big problem, naxx the original line up of more exaggerated and a copy of the key tasks of the most complicated blocking 'mix RL that a qualified or able to properly arrange CL rotation of members is not against the initiative.
2 groups or more groups, an analogy is made princes, Military system, may be due to the sovereign (president, and central management) follow the deployment of a strong and unified, but buried seeds of instability there, Military, feudal system that is more consequential dispute is civil unrest. (Well, a bit alarmist, but the service does have a lot of European Society of China, planted in this above)
, however large or small, whether as a team, the union's reputation for progress in large part to be embodied by so many groups certainly need a team of trade unions to back them up appearances, here is the problem, favoritism definitely not satisfied and want the elite from other groups in the deprived? not, even if the RL is willing, team members will be satisfied with the reasons I do not say. more union groups are essentially in the use of union resources (personnel and others) deployment of forces in exchange for reducing the risk scale, in my opinion, TBC
currently is unwise to say I have the evaluation of multi-union group, may not be comprehensive because many groups in the OF is relatively small, I An example encountered two large groups contradiction, I believe the president of the domestic large trade unions should have experience of this more than I do, please add.
formed on the pvp, now we are still collecting opinions one by one negative (exclusion ...), the time being, put aside
on equipment distribution, in general, and not too many rules and regulations, provisions, mainly points: (specific reasons I will explain later)
1. to take the way: roll. the roll 5 * dkp-10 * dkp then roll out the who who get high, equipment is a fixed point.
2. equipped with basic nothing too limited to parts you want your roll, of course, the time ts in the m roll in the deliberations of language is casual, the last before the roll out of it. mt set priorities in addition to soldiers, the other is also a roll, partakers Take.
3. In addition to the tank defense equipment, the negative score dkp can not roll things. The only exception is if this piece of equipment a person has a huge upgrade, but an elite rank, you can get negative points to the CL application in the absence of other positive points Demand case, CL will apply to the RL, the agreement to him. each person can only get a negative score.
4. Set components, if unwanted, that is the most exciting moment: all the soldiers, priests, xd (parts with professional) to send to your pve pants ... and then is stuffed with the scream is strong (and sometimes is really is a must, the current rating system in general goods is still very rational, 151 The vast majority of cases are better natural than the 131, will be a great help to the raid, that exception is the so-called artifact). But if you set any better than that, can not be stuffed, RL picked up, for suite, demolition of Crystal ~ ~
on the reasons for these systems:
more of these alone, it is not a complete system, in particular, who want to roll, seems to be a lot of problems. But it is also difference between TBC and now has a place.
1.pvp loaded with pve installed separately: blz the concept of large extent, a distinction between pvp and pve, copy, raid toughness is unable to get loaded (in fact there are many, Blizzard will be added in future), only the battlefield, the arena can. Once upon a dps career, such as thieves, the Master , Warlock, Battlefield raid took the case still is not cool, no toughness, you will die miserable (Nihilum was swept how I think we all remember). As for the treatment of occupational, mixed occupations, leisure Point Arena to play (if not the very time a week, only 1 hour only), to get the pk equipment, no longer count on the raid. In other words, raid to get a copy of a copy of the work can only be installed in all such case, the conflict is relatively less.
2. Equipment way to get more: once to a purple, basic is the Huashan road: raid.TBC a change in the epic is, high-quality epic way to get access to very rich . To arms? ok, blacksmith, forging level 3 weapons falling comparable to Mount Hyjal, not to mention materials, rare, out of the materials we have armed the three blacksmith of (2.2 Houhaijiaer since Black Temple mobs and share loot table, excluding precious stones, the high-end materials greatly enriched, as to three weapons material? out all unwanted, unnecessary in the future may sell the supplement will do epic tank). law to be equipped? ok, tailor 2 sets: spellstrike and battlecast and T4, as some aspects even better, there are dark, fire, Olympic Ice 2 sets (currently as a Master Captain, a lot of new people wish to join the raid, the first thing I ask is whether a tailor, or have not bought France strike set: similar conditions in all cases, the equipment was better tailor a large portion of its operation in the specific study and understanding of the talent before, at least, easy to tailor the hard targets standard equipment) can be and the two sets of mixed wear. leatherworking, engineering as well. At the same time heroic, Karazhan is a very good fall. Since then easily obtained, and both are work clothes, so why still have to go raid to take it? And the union, in such circumstances, why not relax in this area restrictions? treatment of occupational and mixed by professional feel respect and understanding, but in fact has no impact on the raid. in fact have other access channels to the case of most people still will not bother to install all get hurt, unless it is desired to have, since you have that many points, why not give you power it?
3.rank auxiliary system as previously that, for the treatment of occupational, mixed occupations, to obtain a set or two sets of injuries are not rare things installed, then copy, they will be more safety tips to take work-therapy equipment. Some people may ask: If there is the treatment of occupational get hurt all the dkp install it? For this, my answer is that you bring, you can, but you have to consider whether you can appear in the next and subsequent raid. Do not misunderstand, not a threat to them. but now We compared the union adequate substitute to do the task to open the door there. your attitude, the performance of officials and other members will be within sight, and you get hurt a man loading, relative to other therapeutic treatment is the main holding deputy hurt, it is there is a gap quickly pull out, do you think he can keep the elite rank how long? is now wasteland stage, the boss can be a relatively small farm, the damage to equipment now give opportunity to the next raid is not wise. In general, take treatment equipment is that you do not get the free (except Cyprus strong suit), the group into the raid group you will not see you showing (Blizzard coming to therapy equipment also has a certain ability to dps raid guild will have the stability of occupational therapy a great help).
4. personally think the most important point is that a stable core group and union culture. current raid group of 25 trade unions, more than half from the early (bwl, even mc, I is from the server and opening up to entrenched since the witch) era came to be. This is the nickyin's post pointed out before, for a single group of elite trade unions, a core group has played a huge role, they put themselves in the trade unions interests to assist in the implementation of union policy ,==.< br> As for the trade union culture, a little Xuan Hu, huh, huh. Our union is very famous in the server, and wore the name of the small unions often been gank, but soon Support was over until the anti-gank. 2.0 Before the Storm, our union team almost premade Aracy battlefield victory. The only failure is another server in a premade lost crazy world full titan + buff, the last 2000:1960 lost. pve has been leading. At the Forum, our biggest rival union coalition officials also spoke highly of us (give an example I mentioned, a tribal alliance guild on the trumpet is very bureaucratic to tell us ; your Association has been added to my KOS list of the Association ), which, after a reasonable publicity, through the core group of older members, can make newcomers feel the union's strength and charm, so that they are proud to join the union. This is a subtle rendering culture. And think The invisible rules of the cold compared the people to be more easily accepted. also helps the whole raid, and the harmonious development of trade unions.
officials said that under the final structure:
In fact, the whole structure of government officials is that way before tbc, as officer in addition to speaking at the official channel, there are no privileges, well, relatively speaking, there are first team CL ~ ~ officer powers when on this bench in the raid is another often enough. such as : xxx, the boss needs a tank, you come up next ~ ~ ~ 15 Zhonghou En, no tanks can play, work hard, you still continue to farm, go-_-(which in my case there are more important The reason is that students need considerable echelon Training Institute, there is no guarantee that new alternate day can not find a mage)
president of a, RL a, a personnel officer, PVP official one (temporarily not to do, so basically act as a raid fire fighters), materials management by the RL. CL 9 个, uh, 9 occupation.
RL management of materials is, in fact, not much, because all drugs, food is prepared their own, MT's appropriate subsidies by the officials themselves Gaoqian + ~ ~ (poor MT) is so far the main cost for a tank of ice for the anti + anti-fire equipment, and finally the pve rank members get one donated 50g (TBC in good money), All other parts are installed unions acquire Green, 10g a, cod (late materials management was raised to a height, as Black Temple and Hyjal drop and reel, and high-end materials and equipment made gems has a very high value, How to increase raid members with their enthusiasm is a very important issue).
CL nominally unified management of all members of the profession of all, in fact, responsible only for pve rank members of the fact that not many people share down, the most is a warrior CL, 6 to 7 men, including one officer, mt a. the other in about 4 ~ 5, 3 to 4 less. at least the xd, xd the CL joke that is the most easily CL: total of 3 xd, + his own, one of which will grow to be, ha ha. Another xd land reclamation is not participating.
TBC late second instance of the Association
first introduced to our association, the European service Xavius's EVO (evolution), is open from the server after the establishment of tribal associations, many cattle in two years will rise and fall tribal alliance, the passage of time, EVO survive only in PVE has been in the position of tribal leader, and open TBC PVE after the Union lost the advantage (pala on a rogue former career, and now look on the strength of WWS Association, 80% of all tribes), we also long to go PVE guild on the server front, the current to the fourth of Hyjal Black Temple to her second child.
For PVP, Bsaslan post has already been mentioned, and as long as the group of the Association team, the Alliance to meet the national team are second back to run the arena 5v5 battle group have several groups of leading , Armored Nether Drake to raid often in groups A, Throne of the Elements once our brothers were bullied, often Nagrand Union camps will be wiped away.
short in my eyes, the development so far, TBC in our association is very successful, after all, re-learning students can not play games every day, home, mobility difficulties due to serious long-term impact on raid progress.
raid group of people usually from 7:00, 7:00 15-30 to formally Start (BS under their own, often late, but also very helpless, after all, work and study is the first), raid to 11:30 the end of the general, if there are more down boss will want to 0:00, in short, raid 4 hours a day , Saturday and Sunday rest, fat tissue Ge Luma Karazhan group or association and the varsity field.
management are also students, all equal, officer in addition to official channels do not get to meet, as a class leader has also been the location and other members of the same roll, a year ago when the captain so when the hunter, and now also the case when the Master captain, served as president are not otaku, only a slight exception to the former, there are hunting thieves Sa No. 3, but indeed, Obviously the deployment of his dps and better at understanding, the current president of the priest came to the treatment of the issues are understood, in short, a different President and raid leader have their own strengths and expertise, the experience you can have multiple small have more flexibility in the raid and to have a better understanding of the occupation, class leader and the staff supporting the work will have to do a good job.
our association in the TBC in the most serious problems facing the raid personnel changes is too large, As is the student body, but also scattered in many countries (Britain, France and Finland hh Theo and I intended to vote Frostwolf friend is transferred from the German, the main members are in Vienna), so keep a holiday (vacation time in different countries), returning home, marriage marriage, school is the examination of the stop, students, general economic conditions are not good, a lot to work, such as the former captain is my Master has recently forced the old man living my successor the same time, naturally no money Good computer, often not a good network, so was the Prince of abuse 2 months, a considerable amount of time wasted in dropped calls, collective dropped, Pirates of the network failure, power outage student apartments, roommates BT download, crashes, poisoning birds and many other things, hacking was a very serious threat to many times in our raid, I have stolen 2 times, last lost four level 60 characters, including the original dwarf edwin, 6 months loss of tens of thousands of g in addition to theft No. All the main trumpet have been removed can not be restored, almost quit wow; Association Warlock stolen captain is exaggerated 5 times a year, still strong enough to stand up (secretly we are laughing, his back door is the bar of the fence, want to go to enter), recently living in Italy, home of the vice Tansuo been looted, the computer gone hh
short, raid the main force for the crop of another crop of, equipment diluted and diluted it down to us Prince has caused considerable trouble. to the Master, the Master is a very long time captain of a man hardcore, snakes and storms during the summer often a mage, you can imagine, those copies did not nerf the former will only become a sheep more trouble, but fortunately many warlock, so if you look at the Institute during the summer raid, before the injury list is usually 4 Warlock 4, 5, when exaggerated, as the new president and the raid leader's legionz very hard work, so in my opinion , as a student in the PVE aspect of our Society can advance the black temple, PVP aspects of the strong battle group has been quite successful, and now the summer lessons Association will not receive because of the new and old lessons of disruption caused by the raid, it is attention to the cultivation of the second echelon and the new elite promoted so far in Hyjal and Black Temple pioneers had almost no problem of shortage of personnel, of course, as noted above to maintain a single group to provide adequate back-up is also a strategy for the future, and if the line continued to increase staff raid enthusiastic, ...

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